If only our society was still aiming towards treating everyone as individuals, as I thought we were until 5 minutes ago.
We keep being told "Diversity is strength" , yet expect everyone to have the same intelligence and strength etc, thus be equally spread through society. We should be playing to our strengths, not covering up weaknesses.
People don't seem bothered that athletics is dominated by people of African decent but get wound up about CEOs...
Each nation should be teaching conformity and assimilation. Then new immigrants and "marginalized" groups would have a path to fit into society. Instead we preach diversity. We can't talk about the differences that cause some groups to fail or turn to crime. That would be racism. If we state the problems that becomes hate speech. Free speech is gone. Maybe never to return.
In the US 13% of the population commits 33% of the crime. From FBI stats. But it's not their fault, it's the white man's fault, somehow.
Conformity builds a nation, diversity tears it apart.
Becoming American was the way to be American. The right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Right now the great replacement is in warp speed. I talk about this on my podcast, deeply.
The IQ differences by ethnicity are well established facts. No other explanation is needed for differential ethnic outcomes eg by profession. Optimally, people should be judged as individuals and it is usually in our self interest to do so. If, however objective criteria, such as examinations, are removed or rigged in favour of certain ethnicities then judgement by individual merit is thwarted. Accordingly, in the USA at least, it is rational to select your medical practitioner, for example, on a group basis, ie on racial lines.
This subject should be rightfully called the mother of all taboos. Tread lightly or you might find yourself deplatformed. Thanks Simon, this subject needs to be discussed openly, if not for the simple fact that racial disparities are forever used as an argument to implement unfair and harmful policies.
Great piece of work, thank you. Steven Pinker takes on the Nature-v-Nurture debate in his book "The Blank Slate". It seems clear that Nature is far more influential than Nurture.
one of the big issues is that given the validity of the results ( I beleive the American military shows similiar ) is what can be done about it ?
If no one wants to recognise the issue then its difficult to put any remedial actions in place - diets and cultural issues can be mitigated for example.
Or ,as it appears , the issue is ignored and individuals are promoted to positions they cannot cope ( which is way-ism itself ) .
I don’t think anything should be done about it. We don’t have to “equalise” anything. People must do the best with the hand they’re dealt and of course we should always work towards equality of opportunity so everyone can achieve their maximum potential for the good of all.
I think that equal opportunity is vital. Everybody must be treated on the same footing and no tinkering with the criteria to gain admission to universities or obtain jobs.
Equality of opportunity is always confusing to the left. Thy mix it up with equality of outcome. Hence we end up with so called positive discrimination and box ticking
And yet the total opposite is being practiced in what can only be described as insanity that only afflicts the west.............and which will most certainly lead to its inevitable downfall
Suppose you read that article and substitute the word age for race? Might it be that older people (of Simon's age and, as it happens, of my age too) are on average less intelligent? This sometimes seems obvious to me as I stand in line at the supermarket checkout. Maybe old people's brains don't work as fast. If that is true, is it helpful for it to be researched and to have everyone constantly reminded of it? MIght it lead to older people being discriminated against more than they are? We have all seen the patronising: "come along now Mr Webb, how are we feeling today?" from for example nurses and doctors. My point is, if some races are less/more intelligent than others, it leads the less intelligent in any group to alter they way they treat people from groups with lower _average_ intelligence, something Simon doesn't do of course (because he is too intelligent).
I would say the system in China would be why it is totalitarian and “messed up”. But just to check your statement I did a quick search on Chinese in the UK and found this. “Overall, as a demographic group, the British Chinese are amongst the highest income earners, the highest academic achievers and the least likely to receive any welfare support from the government.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Chinese --- maybe you are seeing immigrants who aren’t the ones doing the entrance exams for the RAF. Personally in London I haven’t seen any Chinese doing cheap labour. I know one British Chinese his wife is one of the top Violinists in the world - even playing for the royal family and he has a successful web design company.
yes im aware that some chinese people excel accademically - but in my whole life i have encountered 1 chinese doctor and 2 chinese bus drivers - the rest work in restaurants and chip shops.
Maybe your circles don’t touch these high earners. The highest earners of any race don’t have much contact with the public let’s face it. I’m gonna go with the statistics rather than personal anecdotes for this analysis simon has done on IQ.
You might ask yourself what kind of people leave their own nations and seek to live abroad? Are they the wealthy and successful or those who are not doing so well in their own land?
The chinese economy is on track to become the biggest in the world. Already they are the factory of the world, being able to make anything from cars to microchips. If it's a mess it's definately not a mess on the level of Haiti or Uganda. Just look at the faces of the winners of international Math Olympiads. It's a sea of yellow faces - even the American team is majority asian.
Two comments. First, with reference to your first point, I believe there is a strong correlation between reaction times and IQ. And second, I think the extreme efforts made to disparage the IQ test itself, and any group to group comparisons, is very revealing. If there were virtually no differences in intelligence between groups, this would be obvious and there would be no need to deny it.
I once read "Intelligence. The Battle for the Mind", Written by Eysenk and Camen, Russian and American Scientists arguing, one declared it due to environment the other inheritance. Neither defined Intelligence. The capacity to collect, store and recall information.
The biggest difference is in the creative part of the IQ. This is why we have all the technological advances in society being from people who were and are predominantly of white ancestry. The Chinese are very good at refining an idea as are the Japanese. Europeans started to build Cathedrals around a thousand years ago. Impressive yes but you can go back to look at what the Romans and Greeks built .Ye
I think China was hugely disadvantaged Confucianism. I’ve read about it and to ascend in the Chinese hierarchy you basically had to be the best at remembering endless pages of Confucian laws and rules and text perfectly. Also a caste system operate which suppressed any creation by lower classes. Before that they invented a lot. This is a similar disadvantage that was experienced by Arab peoples. Once islam took precedence they saw inventions as an affront to God and all invention ceased. The West combined the reason of the Greeks with its religious foundations and really made headway in the creative fields.
They tend to be wired differently e.g. my father was based in Kenya during the war, exercise one night is to take them out in groups of about 10, including a local African, in an enclosed truck dropped off about midnight and told to find their way back to camp, after several hour of wandering around with everyone throwing in their two pennies worth, the African asks what the problem is so they tell him to which the African says its that way, how far, 4 cigarettes, so they set off and sure enough there is the camp. The test was not find the camp but to teach the soldiers how to use local knowledge. The African was wired differently to all the Europeans and so it is today.
The thing I find most convincing about the validity of your proposition is not your arguments but the reluctance to reveal relevant data and to carry out further research into the matter. If you are so clearly wrong why is no one being allowed to look for refuting evidence. I suspect that they know what the result would be.
State schools( like most institutions) fudge the results and assessments ... so depending on the area, the standard of education, diet and parental standards vary considerably.. when I first went to England with my school many moons ago, the price of everything, the calm attitudes etc.. it was tangible, even as an infant school attendee. there is even difference between the vale of glamorgan and Its neighbour Bridgend CBC. so this effects the results.. sometimes in an intangible way , academically..
If only our society was still aiming towards treating everyone as individuals, as I thought we were until 5 minutes ago.
We keep being told "Diversity is strength" , yet expect everyone to have the same intelligence and strength etc, thus be equally spread through society. We should be playing to our strengths, not covering up weaknesses.
People don't seem bothered that athletics is dominated by people of African decent but get wound up about CEOs...
Yes, diversity is only a strength until we start delving a little deeper and asking ourselves about the nature of that diversity!
I think ‘diversity is a strength’ is about to replace ‘your cheque is in the post’ as the most common lie ever told.
Diversity is their strength. Divide and conquer is what they are about.
Each nation should be teaching conformity and assimilation. Then new immigrants and "marginalized" groups would have a path to fit into society. Instead we preach diversity. We can't talk about the differences that cause some groups to fail or turn to crime. That would be racism. If we state the problems that becomes hate speech. Free speech is gone. Maybe never to return.
In the US 13% of the population commits 33% of the crime. From FBI stats. But it's not their fault, it's the white man's fault, somehow.
Conformity builds a nation, diversity tears it apart.
Becoming American was the way to be American. The right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Right now the great replacement is in warp speed. I talk about this on my podcast, deeply.
The IQ differences by ethnicity are well established facts. No other explanation is needed for differential ethnic outcomes eg by profession. Optimally, people should be judged as individuals and it is usually in our self interest to do so. If, however objective criteria, such as examinations, are removed or rigged in favour of certain ethnicities then judgement by individual merit is thwarted. Accordingly, in the USA at least, it is rational to select your medical practitioner, for example, on a group basis, ie on racial lines.
I explain this in my recent Podcast on I.Q., they are trying to destroy the West, and knowledge of true I.Q. Neutralizes their lies.
This subject should be rightfully called the mother of all taboos. Tread lightly or you might find yourself deplatformed. Thanks Simon, this subject needs to be discussed openly, if not for the simple fact that racial disparities are forever used as an argument to implement unfair and harmful policies.
The fact that is taboo, means the power structure is afraid of it. They are afraid of the truth because they rule by lies.
Great piece of work, thank you. Steven Pinker takes on the Nature-v-Nurture debate in his book "The Blank Slate". It seems clear that Nature is far more influential than Nurture.
Hello Simon,
one of the big issues is that given the validity of the results ( I beleive the American military shows similiar ) is what can be done about it ?
If no one wants to recognise the issue then its difficult to put any remedial actions in place - diets and cultural issues can be mitigated for example.
Or ,as it appears , the issue is ignored and individuals are promoted to positions they cannot cope ( which is way-ism itself ) .
Difficult choices are ahead.
I hope that a paradigm shift is on the way; a time when data such as those I cite will be the basis for a new view of humanity.
I don’t think anything should be done about it. We don’t have to “equalise” anything. People must do the best with the hand they’re dealt and of course we should always work towards equality of opportunity so everyone can achieve their maximum potential for the good of all.
I think that equal opportunity is vital. Everybody must be treated on the same footing and no tinkering with the criteria to gain admission to universities or obtain jobs.
Equality of opportunity is always confusing to the left. Thy mix it up with equality of outcome. Hence we end up with so called positive discrimination and box ticking
"Everybody must be treated on the same footing"
Ohhhhhhh racist racist racist !!!!! arghhhhh (-:
And yet the total opposite is being practiced in what can only be described as insanity that only afflicts the west.............and which will most certainly lead to its inevitable downfall
Meritocracy. Just watch the movie Idiocracy to see the opposite. Good movie to prove the point. Good laugh too.
The BBC will hate this post.
That would be an unlooked for bonus, of course!
Suppose you read that article and substitute the word age for race? Might it be that older people (of Simon's age and, as it happens, of my age too) are on average less intelligent? This sometimes seems obvious to me as I stand in line at the supermarket checkout. Maybe old people's brains don't work as fast. If that is true, is it helpful for it to be researched and to have everyone constantly reminded of it? MIght it lead to older people being discriminated against more than they are? We have all seen the patronising: "come along now Mr Webb, how are we feeling today?" from for example nurses and doctors. My point is, if some races are less/more intelligent than others, it leads the less intelligent in any group to alter they way they treat people from groups with lower _average_ intelligence, something Simon doesn't do of course (because he is too intelligent).
This is a sobering thought!
It's best not to confuse wisdom with intelligence. This is generally where age has an advantage. Providing one can still remember things.
You might benefit from my podcast on the subject.
interesting statistics - particularly about chinese IQ levels.
however - if the chinese are so smart why is China in such a mess?
and why do the majority of chinese people in britain do unskilled jobs?
and on a personal note - im now 67 and have been almost run over 3 times - and 2 of those 3 times the driver was chinese
I would say the system in China would be why it is totalitarian and “messed up”. But just to check your statement I did a quick search on Chinese in the UK and found this. “Overall, as a demographic group, the British Chinese are amongst the highest income earners, the highest academic achievers and the least likely to receive any welfare support from the government.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Chinese --- maybe you are seeing immigrants who aren’t the ones doing the entrance exams for the RAF. Personally in London I haven’t seen any Chinese doing cheap labour. I know one British Chinese his wife is one of the top Violinists in the world - even playing for the royal family and he has a successful web design company.
yes im aware that some chinese people excel accademically - but in my whole life i have encountered 1 chinese doctor and 2 chinese bus drivers - the rest work in restaurants and chip shops.
maybe the smarts ones parents werent cousins :)
Maybe your circles don’t touch these high earners. The highest earners of any race don’t have much contact with the public let’s face it. I’m gonna go with the statistics rather than personal anecdotes for this analysis simon has done on IQ.
".... and why do the majority of chinese people in britain do unskilled jobs?"
Where's the evidence for this statement and what source did you refer to?
You might ask yourself what kind of people leave their own nations and seek to live abroad? Are they the wealthy and successful or those who are not doing so well in their own land?
I'm guessing adventurous people and/or the retired. I am in both categories, and I left my native nation 24 years ago.
i eat out a lot
Good one.
Communism destroys everything.
Smart people may have to play dumb to survive.
Brainwashing, bad food and pharmaceuticals dumb people down. And do they floridate the water there?.
The chinese economy is on track to become the biggest in the world. Already they are the factory of the world, being able to make anything from cars to microchips. If it's a mess it's definately not a mess on the level of Haiti or Uganda. Just look at the faces of the winners of international Math Olympiads. It's a sea of yellow faces - even the American team is majority asian.
Did you say yellow faces? Oh, dear.
Two comments. First, with reference to your first point, I believe there is a strong correlation between reaction times and IQ. And second, I think the extreme efforts made to disparage the IQ test itself, and any group to group comparisons, is very revealing. If there were virtually no differences in intelligence between groups, this would be obvious and there would be no need to deny it.
If there were no differences, then I rather think that some people would be fervently in favour of IQ tests and be brandishing them in triumph!
I once read "Intelligence. The Battle for the Mind", Written by Eysenk and Camen, Russian and American Scientists arguing, one declared it due to environment the other inheritance. Neither defined Intelligence. The capacity to collect, store and recall information.
I have not seen Hans Eysenk's name mentioned for many years! Like Arthur Jensen, he is frowned upon these days.
The biggest difference is in the creative part of the IQ. This is why we have all the technological advances in society being from people who were and are predominantly of white ancestry. The Chinese are very good at refining an idea as are the Japanese. Europeans started to build Cathedrals around a thousand years ago. Impressive yes but you can go back to look at what the Romans and Greeks built .Ye
I think China was hugely disadvantaged Confucianism. I’ve read about it and to ascend in the Chinese hierarchy you basically had to be the best at remembering endless pages of Confucian laws and rules and text perfectly. Also a caste system operate which suppressed any creation by lower classes. Before that they invented a lot. This is a similar disadvantage that was experienced by Arab peoples. Once islam took precedence they saw inventions as an affront to God and all invention ceased. The West combined the reason of the Greeks with its religious foundations and really made headway in the creative fields.
You might like this podcast:
https://open.substack.com/pub/soberchristiangentlemanpodcast/p/s2-ep-20-iq-what-is-it-and-how-it?r=31s3eo&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
They tend to be wired differently e.g. my father was based in Kenya during the war, exercise one night is to take them out in groups of about 10, including a local African, in an enclosed truck dropped off about midnight and told to find their way back to camp, after several hour of wandering around with everyone throwing in their two pennies worth, the African asks what the problem is so they tell him to which the African says its that way, how far, 4 cigarettes, so they set off and sure enough there is the camp. The test was not find the camp but to teach the soldiers how to use local knowledge. The African was wired differently to all the Europeans and so it is today.
The thing I find most convincing about the validity of your proposition is not your arguments but the reluctance to reveal relevant data and to carry out further research into the matter. If you are so clearly wrong why is no one being allowed to look for refuting evidence. I suspect that they know what the result would be.
I have the same suspicion!
Me too
State schools( like most institutions) fudge the results and assessments ... so depending on the area, the standard of education, diet and parental standards vary considerably.. when I first went to England with my school many moons ago, the price of everything, the calm attitudes etc.. it was tangible, even as an infant school attendee. there is even difference between the vale of glamorgan and Its neighbour Bridgend CBC. so this effects the results.. sometimes in an intangible way , academically..